the bush tax cuts or more importantly raise taxes from the current rates to a new rate. so, yeah, you kind of step in it when you get down that road if you're not precisely clear as to what you mean. >> as you well known 236 members of the house have signed this. you have this freshman class with largely there with tea party support. the question is can they go home again if they vote for something that allows the bush tax cuts to expire? are they going to be able to go back and say, well, i don't know, i violated the pledge or i didn't violate the pledge? >> i think that is something that grover's going to have to with atr really get clarified with the members. if a bill is presented that has in it the automatic expiration of the bush tax cut is that considered when you vote for that bill, you know, a vote to increase taxes?